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uDevGames 2008 - Carlos Camacho - Sep 11, 2008 04:59 AM

I have some potential sponsors for a new contest. Now, I'd like to see the kind of participation we would have.

* It would most likely run 2~3 months.

* I'd like to have a theme of one of the following:
a) simple simulations
b) educational games
c) anything but must have particles
d) anything but must have scrolling
e) anything but must employ pathfinding

uDevGames 2008 - stevejohnson - Sep 11, 2008 07:01 AM

Why not just a generic contest? I'm not a fan of the last three as "themes." PyWeek's theme choices are more theme-y and fun. (Stuff like 'length of a piece of string,' 'morning fog and frosts,' 'dust bunnies,' and 'flat-packed.')

PyWeek 7 is currently underway, but I'll be good for another one in a week and a half.

Since you have sponsors, can we just have uDG '08?

uDevGames 2008 - AndyKorth - Sep 11, 2008 08:47 AM

How about everyone visit this page:

And make the game that matches the name ;D

uDevGames 2008 - OneSadCookie - Sep 11, 2008 12:20 PM

I think the themes are distinctly uninspired; unless the promoter has a particular interest in a theme, why impose one as restrictive as those?

I don't think you'll be able to find out how many would enter with a poll, either.

uDevGames 2008 - DoG - Sep 11, 2008 01:27 PM

I like how I could select both, the "Yes, I would" and "Sorry, I'm too busy" choice Wink

Also, I agree with OSC, the themes aren't very good. You can pratically do anything and shoehorn particles on it, or call it a simulation, or pathfinding, or whatever, without being especially skilled or creative.

If it has to be a theme, then something akin to the famous "Measure the height of a building with a barometer" is much better suited, as it gives you some constraints, and there exist very straight forward (and boring) solutions, but also very creative ones.

uDevGames 2008 - ThemsAllTook - Sep 11, 2008 02:12 PM

If we did an unthemed 3-month contest with sponsors, that's basically uDevGames, right? I've been hoping to see uDevGames return since 2005, and I think we'd have plenty of interest if it did. uDevGames was a cornerstone of iDevGames for years, and I think bringing it back would be one of the best things we could do to revitalize iDevGames and the Mac game community in general. My feeling is that themes are better saved for smaller contests (and that those should run regularly too, if possible), but you'd get better results out of longer contests if they weren't restricted to a theme.

Carlos, let me know if there's anything I can do to help move this contest along. I'm really keen to get these things going again!

uDevGames 2008 - reubert - Sep 11, 2008 03:49 PM

I agree that a theme is not really necessary and that a full on uDevGame contest would be great for the community.

My vote would be for a 3 month contest with no other limits.

uDevGames 2008 - stevejohnson - Sep 11, 2008 07:17 PM

AndyKorth Wrote:How about everyone visit this page:

And make the game that matches the name ;D

I do kind of want to know what Nuclear Sudoku in the Dark would be like.

uDevGames 2008 - Skorche - Sep 11, 2008 08:14 PM

You can get all sorts of fun names from that thing:
Corporate Hair Salon Smackdown
Star Wars Karaoke Force
Telekinetic Mall of Magic
Escape from the STD on the Oregon Trail
Explosive Rabbit Exhibition
Irritating Stunt World
Everybody Hates the Landmine Mansion
Disturbing Hillbilly Collection
Wooden Equestrian Havoc
Mystical Internet Assault
Nudist Viking of Magic
Horrifying Boxing in the Outback
Attach of the Mall Quest
Demonic Dating Fight Club
Shady Skydiving Pose
Rocket-Powered Duck Force
Confusing Tetris Nation
Angry Bass Expert
Scooby Doo and the Bobsled of Mystery

uDevGames 2008 - AnotherJake - Sep 11, 2008 09:37 PM

Bookmarked! Grin

On-topic: I don't like the "themes" idea (restriction) either. Making even simple games is hard enough as it is!

[edit] oh man, I just saw that Terrydil used the "bookmarked" thing in another post -- I swear I wasn't copy-catting! How funny, er, maybe not so funny... whatever... I'm not taking it back! hehehe cough wheez

uDevGames 2008 - sealfin - Sep 12, 2008 02:09 AM

I'll echo the requests for a free-form uDG over a themed contest - it would be awesome to have uDG return for iDG's tenth year...

uDevGames 2008 - BeyondCloister - Sep 12, 2008 03:12 AM

I'll add my voice to those clamouring for an unthemed contest.

An open contest like that is more likely to get me to squeeze it into my busy workload rather a themed one.

uDevGames 2008 - AndyKorth - Sep 12, 2008 08:48 AM

Freeformed would be good too. I'm sure we all have no shortage of games in mind that we'd like to make.

uDevGames 2008 - ThemsAllTook - Sep 12, 2008 09:08 AM

Actually, it might help to understand the motivation behind the chosen themes (and behind having any theme at all). Carlos, if you're reading this, could we possibly get some elaboration?

uDevGames 2008 - Carlos Camacho - Sep 12, 2008 09:45 AM

Good feedback.

>Actually, it might help to understand the motivation behind the chosen themes
Particles and pathing are soley for the desire for such code for the community.
Simulations because that is the genre I like and something I want to see more of.
Education because its a good genre to bring interest to the community.

I could incorporate special prizes for "Best Educational Title" and so on..

Hmmm... on second thought... everyone just make a soccer game! wa ha ha

OK, if I have enough community members that would enter, it would guarantee a good base of entrants. I will ponder over the weekend if it would turn into uDevGames 2008.