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GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Mars_999 - Apr 29, 2005 06:47 PM
Well I just played with Xcode and shader builder at the local reseller. GLSL is now in 10.4 but only works through software rendering...
I still don't see the shader_language_100 extension as of yet. But the code I through at shader builder ran fine so you can play around with GLSL at least for now, just don't expect to run it in your games I guess, or be optimal speed conditions.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - OneSadCookie - Apr 29, 2005 07:09 PM
wait, you were able to type stuff into the OpenGL shader builder without it crashing?
OMG!
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Mars_999 - Apr 29, 2005 07:26 PM
OneSadCookie Wrote:wait, you were able to type stuff into the OpenGL shader builder without it crashing?
OMG!
Yes I am!!
Yeah you can select between vertex program, vertex shader, fragment program, ati fragment program, fragment shader. And no crashes!! I even coded up some per pixel lighting quick!!
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - AnotherJake - Apr 29, 2005 07:33 PM
GLSL? I hope this isn't a cruel tease... Tease, fine. Cruel, bad.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - OneSadCookie - Apr 29, 2005 08:16 PM
Tiger's software renderer does GLSL. It seems to work OK. OpenGL Shader Builder crashes left right and center, just as always.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - AnotherJake - Apr 29, 2005 08:30 PM
Whew! Sounds like it's just a tease then. This is my first official word, since my copy is still on the way and I don't get dev seeds. I'll take it as good bad news that Shader Builder does GLSL, but doesn't work.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - wadesworld - May 4, 2005 05:57 PM
I know the hardware vendors are hard at work at it, but I obviously can't talk their plans.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Puzzler183 - May 4, 2005 06:11 PM
All of this fuss just makes me happy that my most recent purchase was a PC with a nice graphics card
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Ingemar - May 5, 2005 11:12 AM
Sad to hear. I had GLSL as my primary plan for learning shader programming. So what should I use then? Some other language? Or should I learn GLSL on the "dark side" and bring it to the Mac once Apple get their act together?
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Dan Potter - May 5, 2005 11:50 AM
Mars_999 Wrote:Well I just played with Xcode and shader builder at the local reseller.
Argh! Wish I could've played with Xcode at the Apple store.
I asked one of the workers if any of the machines had the developer tools installed, and he just gave me a blank look and said "uhh, no" like "what are you smoking?"Oh well, Tiger coming tomorrow for home...
Sucks about the GLSL stuff... I've been wanting to play with that a bit too. And yeah, it seems like Apple is always behind on the 3D support compared to Windows, perhaps due to the non-emphasis on games (or is this just my imagination?). I suspect (hope) that sooner or later they'll turn their guns that direction and will be technologically ahead in 3D once again.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Fenris - May 5, 2005 11:58 AM
The reason that GLSL didn't make full spec in 10.4 is that they had trouble making it fast enough, so they focused on Core Image/Video (since that is what most people will use anyway). So, I'd expect it to be supported in a not-too-distant future.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - phydeaux - May 5, 2005 12:24 PM
I still find that the ARB_vertex_program and ARB_fragment_program are still the easiest cross-platform way to get shaders done. You have to write in assembly, but it's incredibly easy.
Other than the obvious advantage of using a high-level language, is there anything you can do in the shader language you can't with the assembler programs?
P.S. Ingemar, you rock.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Puzzler183 - May 5, 2005 12:24 PM
Eh, if you really want to learn shaders, get a decent PC and play with FX Composer... It's ridiculously easy to use.
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Duane - May 5, 2005 12:28 PM
*cries*
I have to wait till the end of summer for me to get Tiger... (Along with a G5 
). I was hoping to learn shaders using GLSL...
GLSL now in 10.4 sort of.... - Ingemar - May 5, 2005 01:48 PM
Puzzler183, FX Composer is HLSL only, right? I know little about HLSL, but I want GLSL, since it is the open standard and what is likely to be supported on all platforms (eventually). (I assume that HLSL and GLSL are not compatible.) After all, I want to use it for Mac games.
Are there similar tools for GLSL, for Windows or Linux (while I wait for the Mac solution)?
PS: Thanks, phydeaux! :-)