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My new Avatar... - DaFalcon - Mar 30, 2003 02:38 AM

I'm trying to learn develop new art styles for future games, and this is my latest attempt at something different. I took a grainy photograph of myself, then outlined all the important parts with paths and colorized it with a cell-shading look. I'm trying to learn anime faces, so that's why my face looks like it does :-) Comments & suggestions welcome!

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My new Avatar... - Justin Brimm - Mar 30, 2003 02:44 AM

Everything looks good till you get to the face, then it could scare small children and animals. For the face, I would suggest working on the eyes and nose. If your going for an anime look, it's best not to outline your face, and if your going for a cel-shaded version of the real you, then don't go near anime.

My new Avatar... - DaFalcon - Mar 30, 2003 02:54 AM

lol, thanks jbrimm. I suppose I ought to do a lot more practice, practice, practice and also actually decide on *one* style....

I want to re-do the hair, especially if I want to have something of an anime look: nobody has hair that boring in anime that I know of :-) And, as you said, the eyes and nose (hmn, that's the whole face Ninja )

With some references to actual anime faces, I was able to re-create much of my head... I even added the obligitory hair-in-the-face, though it is completely underdone compared with all else I've seen Smile

[Here is the second picture:] [the third and final picture is below....]

Now, looking at my original picture I see the hideousness very clearly :-)

My new Avatar... - ERaZer - Mar 30, 2003 04:13 AM

Yep, thats much better! Still, if you'd go after anime proportions your head is so small Rasp But since I think you don't I say thats pretty darn good!

My new Avatar... - Justin Brimm - Mar 30, 2003 04:25 AM

There is one little thing I see wrong, well, not so little Huh
The nose is pointing in the wrong direction compared to your head, and the left eye (on the page) should be lower than the right. It also needs to be angled correctly; it appears it's flat while the head is turned.

My new Avatar... - Carlos Camacho - Mar 30, 2003 05:22 PM

I think the little avatar looks great.

Do you know the links?:

Arms and shirt look good. In the first picture the line width of the border (black) is different from head and body. Watch out for that.

You "captured" the manga look in the 2nd one. You know in manga/anime, there are many types of eye besides the large eyes which we all know of. Try the "Silent Mobius" (long and slim) or the "Ghost in the Shell" (a bit the same, but thick eye lashes.)

Anyhow, this is good practice. I'm glad to see your art talents expanding. Keep at it!

My new Avatar... - DaFalcon - Mar 30, 2003 11:35 PM

Thank you for the comments, ERaZer, jbrimm, Carlos... And thank you very much for the links: I'd found some basic tutorials on the web, but none on hair, and none as good as these :-) And many of the links to tutorials I found were dead geocities or xoom or insert-free-webspace-provider-here sites.

Hopefully I can keep improving and you'll see a nice new manga/anime game for the mac before too long .... On a somewhat related note, what anime/manga games already exist for the mac? I have found very, very few in my limited searching.

BTW, Carlos (or anyone) what is the basic difference between manga and anime styles? Manga is comics and anime is animation? Are there differences in the style of each? I own zero of either, though I know that I like the art form, what I've seen of it.

My new Avatar... - aarku - Mar 30, 2003 11:58 PM

Not sure if anyone is a fan of Strong Bad, but this gives some real good ideas for drawing anime! LOL

I like the second one, keep up the good work!


My new Avatar... - DaFalcon - Mar 31, 2003 02:31 AM

Thanks Jon. My sisters love Strong Bad, but I never watched anything until that link you just posted... that's really funny, and he looks kind of cool as a mega-man type character :-)

After looking at one of the links Carlos listed, I decided to try to re-do my hair ... I think it turned out alright :-)

[Image: alan_for_web2.gif]

And I'm sure you've all had enough 'updates' so I'm going to declare this as "done enough" for now and move on to more, different pictures :-)

My new Avatar... - Josh - Mar 31, 2003 06:33 AM

Quote:Originally posted by aarku
Not sure if anyone is a fan of Strong Bad, but this gives some real good ideas for drawing anime! LOL

I like the second one, keep up the good work!

Yay! Someone else likes!



My new Avatar... - Carlos Camacho - Mar 31, 2003 05:18 PM

Put the avatar in front of a sky or light color so I can examine your border better. I think if the avatar was in an anime, it wouldn't have hair like that... too hard/intensive to draw all the highlights. But if the avatar was for a game, then the hair would fit. I like that you added a bit of shadow where your scalp is.

Anime vs Manga? Anime came from the Manga world. IMHO, no difference. Especially because sometimes Manga is made into Anime, and vice-versa.

I think next you have to work on the eyes. Also, the bottom right check (your left) seems to portray you as having the mumps.

When you are done, send it in for IOTW.