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OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Holmes - Feb 17, 2011 05:09 PM
I've written up a demo that uses OpenCL to compute lighting. It uses a deferred lighting approach, but saves on bandwidth versus a traditional rasterization based approach because all the lighting is done in a single pass rather than requiring texture reads for every light. Also, unlike a traditional rasterization based approach, lighting is accumulated in full floating point precision but may stored at lower precision, resulting in higher quality results. Using this approach you can have thousands of dynamic lights -- the demo has 1024. I am not the first to put compute kernels/shaders to this task (by about a year), but I think probably the first to do it on OpenCL and for Mac
Lights are first binned into tiles, a tile covering a small fraction of the screen (say 64x64 pixels). Lights are culled against the tile frustum and also minimum and maximum z coordinates for the tile.
Next the lighting is done on a per block basis, a block being 8x8 pixels so that one block fits inside of an OpenCL work group. Lights are block culled in parallel, up to 64 lights at a time. Block culling uses a world-space bounding box around the block, and also culls backfacing lights by using a bounding cone around the normal vectors of all the pixels in the block.
I wrote the demo on a machine that has a Geforce 9400M, so it should work well on Nvidia based Macs that support OpenCL. I don't think it will work well on ATI/AMD cards, however, because the architecture is radically different (VLIW versus scalar) and I have no ATI/AMD card to test with. Also, some ATI cards do not have OpenCL Image support, which this demo requires. If the demo does run successfully on your machine, let me know how well it does!
I'm posting this here because I think it's a cool demo ... however run at your own risk because the implementation is experimental and OpenCL is great at causing kernel panics (ie, please save your work before running this).
z -- previous view mode
x -- next view mode
Try it out!
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Skorche - Feb 17, 2011 07:38 PM
Pretty cool. Runs at about 45fps on my MacBook Pro's 8600(M? GT? can never remember).
What are the different view modes showing?
How much of this is OpenCL doing? The light accumulation and final shading? Presumably you didn't write an OpenCL based rasterizer and are still drawing the polygons and particles with GL?
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Holmes - Feb 17, 2011 07:46 PM
(Feb 17, 2011 07:38 PM)Skorche Wrote: Pretty cool. Runs at about 45fps on my MacBook Pro's 8600(M? GT? can never remember).
The modes show normal, depth (probably all white, oops, should change the zNear and zFar values), diffuse and specular lighting components, the number of lights computed per tile and the number of lights computed per pixel. I guess I really should label these
There are 3 main steps:
1. OpenGL generates depth and normal buffers (needed to perform lighting)
2. OpenCL generates diffuse and specular lighting components for all lights in a single pass
3. OpenGL processes scene again, this time running normal material shaders. The material shaders use the specular and diffuse components computed by OpenCL instead of doing any lighting calculations.
The 3rd step could actually be done by OpenCL in step 2 if step 1 were modified so that OpenGL also outputted albedo (color) information. This would be faster, but less flexible in supporting multiple materials. Many commercial games use a similar approach.
Definitely still rasterizing polygons with OpenGL. When I mentioned rasterization, it's that normally what happens in a deferred lighting setup is that some geometry which bounds the region a light is applied to is rasterized by OpenGL. This usually results in the same pixel being processed many many times (one or more times for each light that is applied to it), which I've replaced with a single OpenCL pass. This saves a lot of bandwidth, and reduces artifacts since typically in OpenGL the lighting would be blended onto a low precision buffer.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - SethWillits - Feb 18, 2011 12:43 PM
I admit, I don't fully understand it because all I know about OpenGL lighting is just from reading short bits of what the rest of you write, but it's obvious this is pretty cool and nifty.
60 fps with the window filling my entire screen. 8800GT
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Holmes - Feb 18, 2011 04:37 PM
(Feb 18, 2011 12:43 PM)SethWillits Wrote: I admit, I don't fully understand it because all I know about OpenGL lighting is just from reading short bits of what the rest of you write, but it's obvious this is pretty cool and nifty.
Awesome! The 8800GT has 7x the shading units as my 9400M so I was hoping this would be the case. I used to have this card in my Mac Pro until it overheated and failed Now I have a Radeon 4870 which doesn't even support OpenCL fully
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - DoG - Feb 20, 2011 07:50 AM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but why is the inside of the crater not lit?
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Holmes - Feb 20, 2011 02:55 PM
(Feb 20, 2011 07:50 AM)DoG Wrote: Maybe this is a stupid question, but why is the inside of the crater not lit?
Not a stupid question at all.
Answer is because it would require being lit by almost every single light ... ends up reducing the frame rate by about 30%. As a hack, I disabled this. It looks pretty cool when it's lit though:
A better solution would probably be to disable it being lit by all the particles, but to add a single larger light source at the center of the crater to compensate.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - SethWillits - Feb 20, 2011 03:03 PM
That's more like it. I did wonder myself why there were 1024 lights, but relatively few hotspots on the surface.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - OptimisticMonkey - Feb 22, 2011 06:00 PM
Crashed on my latest iMac running 10.6.6, Radeon HD 5750, 16GB Ram....
:-( I was looking forward to it
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x00007fff8516c380 strcmp + 80
1 ...pple.ATIRadeonX3000GLDriver 0x0000000116777d9d glrCompCreateProgram + 9133
2 ...pple.ATIRadeonX3000GLDriver 0x000000011677a27c glrCompLoadBinary + 3884
3 ...pple.ATIRadeonX3000GLDriver 0x000000011677a3f2 glrCompBuildProgram + 322
4 com.apple.opencl 0x00007fff87249175 clBuildProgram + 2301
5 ...ourcompany.DeferredLighting 0x000000010000da50 -[ComputeProgram
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Holmes - Feb 22, 2011 07:53 PM
(Feb 22, 2011 06:00 PM)OptimisticMonkey Wrote: Crashed on my latest iMac running 10.6.6, Radeon HD 5750, 16GB Ram....
Dang, that's too bad. Like I said though, I have no AMD/ATI card to test with. Weird though that it crashed on string compare of all things.
Anything in the console? I think the console output could at least let me know which OpenCL program compilation caused the error.
Update: it appears that AMD/ATI cards don't support OpenCL Image in Mac OS X 10.6.6 even though the newer ones do on Windows and Linux. I have some anecdotal evidence that driver support is coming in 10.7. With any luck (crossing fingers) we'll see it come come in an update to 10.6 as well.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Aragorn - Nov 26, 2015 03:10 PM
This looks really cool, just what I've been looking for for the past few days but when I run it my mac crashes every time. Is there a way to avoid crashing and run this smoothly.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - noface0711 - Mar 19, 2016 01:45 AM
I don't fully understand it because all I know about OpenGL lighting is just from reading short bits of what the rest of you write, but it's obvious this is pretty cool and nifty.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - AndreiaBrazier - Mar 22, 2016 02:22 AM
thanks for sharing
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Nicolredmay - Apr 13, 2016 04:27 AM
Didn't really think of that, but by default, translucent (not necessarily transparent) surfaces aren't included in any Deferred Rendering/Lighting procedure anyway. Usually stuff like glass, liquids or jelly are handled afterwards with old fashioned forward lighting.
RE: OpenCL deferred lighting demo - Mjdentist - Yesterday 12:25 AM
Yeah... I agree with you dude.
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