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Duane
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Mar 23, 2005 — 02:18 PM
I made a file that basically made and opengl window or fullscreen, but it crashes. Mad
here's the code:
PHP Code:
/*
 *  GL_graphics.c
 *  Lesson 01
 *
 *  Created by Ryan on Sun Mar 20 2005.
 *  Copyright (c) 2005 __MyCompanyName__. All rights reserved.
 *
 */

#include "GL_graphics.h"

static int runningFullscreen = 0;

int ToggleFullscreen(int width, int height)
{
    if (!runningFullscreen) 
    {
        if (!GL_setFullscreen(width, height)) return 0;
        return 1;
    }
    if (!GL_setWindowed(width, height)) return 0;
    return 1;
}


int GL_setWindowed(int width, int height)
{
    int bpp;
    const SDL_VideoInfo* info = SDL_GetVideoInfo( );
    bpp = info -> vfmt -> BitsPerPixel;
    /* Set bit depth, and double buffering */
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_RED_SIZE, 5 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_GREEN_SIZE, 5 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_BLUE_SIZE, 5 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_DEPTH_SIZE, 16 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_DOUBLEBUFFER, 1 );
    // makes a window
    if(!SDL_SetVideoMode( width, height, bpp, SDL_OPENGL | SDL_RESIZABLE )) // if something went wrong while making a window
    {
    
        fprintf( stderr, "Video mode (windowed) set failed: %s\n",
                 SDL_GetError( ) );
        SDL_Quit(); // quit (duh)
        return 0;
    }
    
    GL_reshape(width, height);  // reshapes
    runningFullscreen = 0;
    
    return 1;    // success!
}

int GL_setFullscreen(int width, int height)
{
    int bpp;
    const SDL_VideoInfo* info = NULL;
    
    info = SDL_GetVideoInfo( );
    bpp = info->vfmt->BitsPerPixel;
    
    /* Set bit depth, and double buffering */
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_RED_SIZE, 5 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_GREEN_SIZE, 5 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_BLUE_SIZE, 5 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_DEPTH_SIZE, 16 );
    SDL_GL_SetAttribute( SDL_GL_DOUBLEBUFFER, 1 );
    
    // makes sets screen to fullscreen
    if(!SDL_SetVideoMode( width, height, bpp, SDL_OPENGL | SDL_FULLSCREEN )) // check to see if something went wrong while going fullscreen 
    {
        fprintf( stderr, "Video mode (fullscreen) set failed: %s\n",
                 SDL_GetError( ) );
        SDL_Quit();
        return 0;
    }
    
    GL_reshape(width, height);
    runningFullscreen = 1;
    
    GL_reshape(width, height);  // reshapes
    runningFullscreen = 0;
    
    return 1;    // success!
    
}

void GL_reshape(int width, int height)
{
    float ratio = (float) width / (float) height;    
    glEnable(GL_DEPTH_TEST);
    glShadeModel( GL_SMOOTH );    
    glClearColor( 0, 0, 0, 0 );
    glViewport( 0, 0, width, height );
    glMatrixMode( GL_PROJECTION );
    glLoadIdentity( );
    gluPerspective( 60.0, ratio, 1.0, 1024.0 );
    #ifdef __APPLE__    // if this is a mac...
    long VBL = 1;
    CGLSetParameter(CGLGetCurrentContext(),  kCGLCPSwapInterval, &VBL); // turn VBL sync on
    #endif
} 
It's not magic, it's Ruby.
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OneSadCookie
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Mar 23, 2005 — 02:34 PM
where does it crash, how does it crash, &c. Just the code's not much use.
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Duane
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Mar 23, 2005 — 02:59 PM
it chrashes precisely when i call:
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if (!GL_setWindowed(width, height)) printf("something went wrong"); 
It's not magic, it's Ruby.
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OneSadCookie
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Mar 23, 2005 — 03:05 PM
where does it crash, how does it crash.

that means backtrace, not line, and SIGSEGV, SIGBUS, SIGABRT, SIGKILL, &c
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Duane
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Mar 23, 2005 — 03:23 PM
«PROJECTNAME» has exited due to signal 10 (SIGBUS).
It's not magic, it's Ruby.
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Mar 23, 2005 — 03:42 PM
OneSadCookie Wrote:that means backtrace, not line

This is like getting blood from a stone! Do you want help or not?
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FCCovett
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Mar 23, 2005 — 03:51 PM
I am with you 100% on this one, OSC. Smile
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aaronsullivan
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Mar 23, 2005 — 04:39 PM
Nayr, I think they want you to post the backtrace which will be in the crash log for your app, located in your local library folder: Library/Logs/CrashReporter/appname.crash.log

OSC has a habit of assuming people are just pretending to not know something to annoy him and then punishing them for it, rather than explaining simply and clearly what he means (without technical jargon that learning programmers haven't grasped yet.) Of course, all knowledgeable smart people are usually very busy, right?
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." - Wizard of Oz
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Duane
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Mar 24, 2005 — 12:55 PM
oh. In that case, i know the problem. The
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bpp = info -> vfmt -> BitsPerPixel; 
part.
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Duane
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Post: #10
Mar 25, 2005 — 01:03 PM
ok, here's the crash:
Code:
Date/Time:      2005-03-25 15:17:13 -0500
OS Version:     10.3.8 (Build 7U16)
Report Version: 2

Command: Lesson 01
Path:    /Users/ryan/Projects/SDL NeHe/Lesson 01/build/Lesson 01.app/Contents/MacOS/Lesson 01
Version: Lesson 01 version 0.1 (0.1)
PID:     597
Thread:  0

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000008

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   ???                          0x0000ab6c GL_setWindowed + 0x2c (GL_graphics.c:30)
1   ???                          0x0000a9c0 SDL_main + 0x28 (main.c:16)
2   ???                          0x0000a644 -[SDLMain applicationDidFinishLaunching:] + 0x64 (SDLMain.m:197)
3   com.apple.Foundation         0x909f7184 _nsnote_callback + 0xb0
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x901aa5c0 __CFXNotificationPost + 0x1b4
5   com.apple.CoreFoundation     0x901aefd0 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 0x340
6   com.apple.Foundation         0x909f4fd0 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 0x74
7   com.apple.AppKit             0x92ee3e70 -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 0x70
8   com.apple.AppKit             0x92ee3d5c -[NSApplication _sendFinishLaunchingNotification] + 0x5c
9   com.apple.AppKit             0x92ee3f8c -[NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent:] + 0x78
10  com.apple.Foundation         0x90a4a544 -[NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] + 0x164
11  com.apple.Foundation         0x90a50c6c _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 0x78
12  com.apple.AE                 0x91674a10 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 0xd0
13  com.apple.AE                 0x91677858 dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 0x2c
14  com.apple.AE                 0x91674c50 aeProcessAppleEvent + 0x11c
15  com.apple.HIToolbox          0x928c4338 AEProcessAppleEvent + 0x3c
16  com.apple.AppKit             0x92dd301c _DPSNextEvent + 0x358
17  com.apple.AppKit             0x92de98c8 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 0x74
18  com.apple.AppKit             0x92dfdc30 -[NSApplication run] + 0x21c
19  ???                          0x0000a5a4 CustomApplicationMain + 0x148 (SDLMain.m:177)
20  ???                          0x0000a97c main + 0x184 (SDLMain.m:278)
21  ???                          0x00009c80 _start + 0x188 (crt.c:267)
22  ???                          0x00009af4 start + 0x30

PPC Thread State:
  srr0: 0x0000ab6c srr1: 0x0000f030                vrsave: 0x00000000
    cr: 0x22002248  xer: 0x0000001d   lr: 0x0000ab60  ctr: 0x30024878
    r0: 0x00000000   r1: 0xbfffeab0   r2: 0x00000000   r3: 0x00000000
    r4: 0x0000ab60   r5: 0x000003a0   r6: 0xfefefeff   r7: 0x80808080
    r8: 0x4000186b   r9: 0x0000c0f4  r10: 0x0000000b  r11: 0x42002242
   r12: 0x30024878  r13: 0x00000000  r14: 0x00000000  r15: 0x00000000
   r16: 0x00000000  r17: 0xbffff600  r18: 0x00000000  r19: 0x00000000
   r20: 0x00323710  r21: 0x0d9a1072  r22: 0x0000000d  r23: 0x0030bfe4
   r24: 0x00000000  r25: 0x0030bfd0  r26: 0xa2dc5170  r27: 0x0030bfd0
   r28: 0x00000000  r29: 0xbfffec10  r30: 0xbfffeab0  r31: 0x909f70f4

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Post: #11
Mar 25, 2005 — 10:59 PM
SDL_GetVideoInfo( ) == NULL maybe? Do you init SDL properly?
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Duane
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Apr 18, 2005 — 09:22 AM
hmm, ok it basicaly works now, but I can't render anything when I call glTranslatef. Mad
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Apr 18, 2005 — 10:58 AM
Are you guessing numbers for glTranslatef or do you actually know what's going on? I can't view your source since I'm on a computer without a decompression program...
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Duane
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Apr 19, 2005 — 07:01 AM
Puzzler183 Wrote:Are you guessing numbers for glTranslatef or do you actually know what's going on? I can't view your source since I'm on a computer without a decompression program...

in the source, you literally uncomment the
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// glTranslatef( 0.0f, 0.0f,-3.0f); 
I hacked this code together with code from kill Cote, cone3d, and the example from doc wiki on libsdl.org.
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Duane
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Apr 20, 2005 — 02:59 PM
Anyone? I'd really like to get this working, and it's only three files (plus the texture file, but that's another bug report).
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