A lil' help on physics pls!!!
Post: #1
I'm a noobie in the area of 'game' writing 
not more then 2 weeks ago i started reading the nehe.gamedev.net tutorial on OpernGL. i just wanted to try myself on the 3d game programing 
and i ended up like this... 
i cannot figure out a simple (not a full engin or sth) way to include simple (as i think it is) laws of physics to my 'game' .... if anyone coud look at the 'game' and help me ? its here http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/prog.zip and my problem(s) look more or less like this http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/Arek/Untitled-1%20copy.png (the key u can use are: 'spacebar' 'e' 'r' and 'esc', dont hit the 'a' 'd' 'q' 'w' i have forgotten to disable them 
)
not more then 2 weeks ago i started reading the nehe.gamedev.net tutorial on OpernGL. i just wanted to try myself on the 3d game programing and i ended up like this... i cannot figure out a simple (not a full engin or sth) way to include simple (as i think it is) laws of physics to my 'game' .... if anyone coud look at the 'game' and help me ? its here http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/prog.zip and my problem(s) look more or less like this http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/Arek/Untitled-1%20copy.png (the key u can use are: 'spacebar' 'e' 'r' and 'esc', dont hit the 'a' 'd' 'q' 'w' i have forgotten to disable them )
Post: #2
Greets, this is Mac development forum so not many people here will be able to run your game; that aside, you might want to post the error-causing code to your game here - OpenGL is happily cross-platform, and somebody here should be able to help...
Mark Bishop
Post: #3
Sorry didnt know that this is Mac forum :|
there is no error-causing code in my game becouse i haven't added physics yet.... the problem is as shown on http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/screen.JPG
how should i write my prog to deal with the 'stairs' ? i want them to crash becous of the gravity... they should fall rotating and stuff, like in real world. i dont know how to write a function that will check if the 'pyramid' is about to crash. must i check all of boxes when i add new one (the one that is above the white line)? from which one shoud i start, the one that's on the top, or is there other sollution??
if anyone wants to see the code (i dont recommend that, it's all messed up there ) it's here http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/JP2pyramid.zip
big THX for those who will spend a lil' while helping me
there is no error-causing code in my game becouse i haven't added physics yet.... the problem is as shown on http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/screen.JPG
how should i write my prog to deal with the 'stairs' ? i want them to crash becous of the gravity... they should fall rotating and stuff, like in real world. i dont know how to write a function that will check if the 'pyramid' is about to crash. must i check all of boxes when i add new one (the one that is above the white line)? from which one shoud i start, the one that's on the top, or is there other sollution??
if anyone wants to see the code (i dont recommend that, it's all messed up there
) it's here http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/JP2pyramid.zip big THX for those who will spend a lil' while helping me
Post: #4
OK. This would require much collision detection/response, which is really hard. Believe me, I've taken two days trying to find how to do this, and It's pretty complex.
It's not magic, it's Ruby.
Post: #5
Whilst you wait for a good natured member of the forum to enlighten you further, you might want to try a quick search of the forum (maybe starting here) and the web; without knowing you coding/maths level, it's kinda hard for people to recommend where to look 
)
Quote:Sorry didnt know that this is Mac forum :|No problem, most people here won't rip you apart for the mistake (although a board titled General Mac Programming might have given you a clue
)
Mark Bishop
Post: #6
sure i'm searching the forum , but maby not the web (i done that for the last week - no results) and now there i see a ligt in a tunell.... ill try to know more about the collision tests (first time i've ever heard 'bout that ) and maby 'bout torque too (that word in english i hear 1st time in my life 
), but there is hope... i hope there is
, but maby not the web (i done that for the last week - no results) and now there i see a ligt in a tunell.... ill try to know more about the collision tests (first time i've ever heard 'bout that ) and maby 'bout torque too (that word in english i hear 1st time in my life ), but there is hope... i hope there is
Post: #7
u know what's funny.. i know a bit about classical and relativistic physics i know how to use the rules the eqations and stuff but i can't handle this 
http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/klocki.png
i dont know how much of the gravitation force (red arrows ) of the yellow "box" will affect the blue and the green one (examples 1 & 2). the same is with the examles 3 and 4. on 3 i think that oll of the gravity force of yellow box will affect the blue one but im not sure "where will it hit it" i assume that it'll be on the black dot correct me if im wrong. anyway if anyone knows how these work, then could he/she add some force arrows to the image and post it here, or send the img to sercherpl@poczta.onet.pl
thx in advance
P.S. i know im a pain in the ass
but heh i have to make it work
P.S. sorry for my not scientific vocabulary, i donot use such often
http://www.toony.dolsat.pl/jakkolwiek/klocki.png
i dont know how much of the gravitation force (red arrows
) of the yellow "box" will affect the blue and the green one (examples 1 & 2). the same is with the examles 3 and 4. on 3 i think that oll of the gravity force of yellow box will affect the blue one but im not sure "where will it hit it" i assume that it'll be on the black dot correct me if im wrong. anyway if anyone knows how these work, then could he/she add some force arrows to the image and post it here, or send the img to sercherpl@poczta.onet.pl thx in advance
P.S. i know im a pain in the ass
but heh i have to make it work P.S. sorry for my not scientific vocabulary, i donot use such often
Post: #8
unless you want to write this as a learning exercise why not use a physics SDK. Check out:
http://www.tokamakphysics.com/
http://ode.org/
http://www.novodex.com/
there are others - google around
http://www.tokamakphysics.com/
http://ode.org/
http://www.novodex.com/
there are others - google around
Post: #9
hi again
thx codemattic 4 the sites - that's what i was looking 4.... i choosed the tokamak ('couse it was first on the list :] )
and now i have problems.... compiler doesn't show any errors but the app isnt working and it tell me that sth is wrong with GetBoxSize() function :/ can anyone look through those several lines of code, and tell me what is wrong? (it may occure that everything is )
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big SORRY for spamming my code here but i don't know what is wrong.... if enyone if familiar to Tokamak and OpenGL enought to help me i would be more than grateful
thx codemattic 4 the sites - that's what i was looking 4.... i choosed the tokamak ('couse it was first on the list :] )
and now i have problems....
compiler doesn't show any errors but the app isnt working and it tell me that sth is wrong with GetBoxSize() function :/ can anyone look through those several lines of code, and tell me what is wrong? (it may occure that everything is )Code:
------ part of _interface.h -----------
class C_interface
{
public:
//Methods:
void AddRigidBody(C_klocek & box);
.....
bool InitPhysics(void);
void KillPhysics(void);
//Tokamak variables:
neSimulator *gSim;
neRigidBody **gCubes;
neAnimatedBody *gFloor;
.....
}
----------------------------
bool C_interface::InitPhysics(void)
{
neGeometry *geom; // A Geometry object which used to define the shape/size of each cube
neV3 boxSize1; // A variable to store the length, width and height of the cube
neV3 gravity; // A vector to store the direction and intensity of gravity
neV3 pos; // The position of a cube
neSimulatorSizeInfo sizeInfo; // Stores data about how many objects we are going to model
int i;
float mass;
sizeInfo.rigidBodiesCount = this->max;
sizeInfo.animatedBodiesCount = 1;
s32 totalBody = sizeInfo.rigidBodiesCount + sizeInfo.animatedBodiesCount;
sizeInfo.geometriesCount = totalBody;
sizeInfo.overlappedPairsCount = totalBody * (totalBody - 1) / 2;
sizeInfo.rigidParticleCount = 0;
sizeInfo.constraintsCount = 0;
sizeInfo.terrainNodesStartCount = 0;
gravity.Set(0.0f, -10.0f, 0.0f);
this->gSim = neSimulator::CreateSimulator(sizeInfo, NULL, &gravity);
this->gFloor = this->gSim->CreateAnimatedBody();
geom = gFloor->AddGeometry();
boxSize1.Set(40.0f , 0.2f, 40.0f);
geom->SetBoxSize(boxSize1[0],boxSize1[1],boxSize1[2]);
gFloor->UpdateBoundingInfo();
pos.Set(0.0f, -3.5f, -10.0f);
gFloor->SetPos(pos);
for (i=0;i<this->max;i++)
{
gCubes[i] = gSim->CreateRigidBody();
geom = gCubes[i]->AddGeometry();
boxSize1.Set(1.0f, 1.0f, 1.0f);
geom->SetBoxSize(boxSize1[0], boxSize1[1], boxSize1[2]);
gCubes[i]->UpdateBoundingInfo();
mass = 1.0f;
gCubes[i]->SetInertiaTensor(neBoxInertiaTensor(boxSize1[0], boxSize1[1], boxSize1[2], mass));
gCubes[i]->SetMass(mass);
pos.Set(0.0f, -30.0f-i*3.0f, 0.0f);
gCubes[i]->SetPos(pos);
}
return true;
}
void C_interface::KillPhysics(void)
{
if (this->gSim)
{
neSimulator :: DestroySimulator(this->gSim);
this->gSim = NULL;
}
}
void C_interface::AddRigidBody(C_klocek & box)
{
neGeometry *geom; // A Geometry object which used to define the shape/size of each cube
C_pozycja klocek = this->obecny->retpar();
neV3 boxSize1; // A variable to store the length, width and height of the cube
f32 mass; // The mass of our cubes
neV3 pos; // The position of a cube
float tmpwys;
if ((int)klocek.rotz%180)
{
tmpwys=klocek.wys;
klocek.wys=klocek.sze;
klocek.sze=tmpwys;
}
if (this->ilosc<this->max)
{
geom = this->gCubes[this->ilosc]->GetNextGeometry();
boxSize1.Set(klocek.sze, klocek.wys, klocek.gl);
geom->SetBoxSize(boxSize1[0], boxSize1[1], boxSize1[2]);
this->gCubes[this->ilosc]->UpdateBoundingInfo();
mass = klocek.sze*klocek.wys*klocek.gl;
this->gCubes[this->ilosc]->SetInertiaTensor(neBoxInertiaTensor(boxSize1[0], boxSize1[1], boxSize1[2], mass));
this->gCubes[this->ilosc]->SetMass(mass);
pos.Set(klocek.x, klocek.y, klocek.z);
gCubes[ilosc]->SetPos(pos);
this->ilosc++;
}
}
------------ from the globals
int DrawGLScene(C_interface & _gra,int max,GLuint * tex) // Here's where we do all the drawing
{
glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT | GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT); // Clear screen and depth buffer
glLoadIdentity(); // Reset the current modelview matrix
_gra.controls(tex);
if (!_gra.lsb && !game)
{
_gra.objmovement();
}
GetETime(time1,fElapsed);
if (fLastElapsed != 0)
{
if (fElapsed > fLastElapsed * 1.2f) fElapsed = fLastElapsed * 1.2f;
if (fElapsed < fLastElapsed * 0.8f) fElapsed = fLastElapsed * 0.8f;
}
if (fElapsed > 1.0f / 45.0f) fElapsed = 1.0f / 45.0f;
fLastElapsed = fElapsed;
_gra.gSim->Advance(fElapsed);
neT3 t;
glPushMatrix();
t = _gra.gFloor->GetTransform();
float mat[16] =
{
t.rot[0][0], t.rot[0][1], t.rot[0][2], 0.0f,
t.rot[1][0], t.rot[1][1], t.rot[1][2], 0.0f,
t.rot[2][0], t.rot[2][1], t.rot[2][2], 0.0f,
t.pos[0], t.pos[1], t.pos[2], 1.0f
};
glMultMatrixf (mat);
neGeometry * geom;
neV3 boxsize,pos;
geom= _gra.gFloor->GetNextGeometry();
geom->GetBoxSize(boxsize);
pos = _gra.gFloor->GetPos();
glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D);
glBindTexture(GL_TEXTURE_2D, texture[2]);
glBegin(GL_QUADS); //
//sciana frontowa //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
//sciana gorna //
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
//sciana dolna //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
//sciana lewa //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
//sciana prawa //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f, boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
//sciana tylna //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f,-boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f( boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2.0f, boxsize[1]/2.0f,-boxsize[2]/2.0f); //
glEnd();
for (int j=0; j<_gra.ilosc;j++)
{
geom=_gra.gCubes[j]->GetNextGeometry();
geom->GetBoxSize(boxsize);
glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D);
glBindTexture(GL_TEXTURE_2D, texture[0]);
glBegin(GL_QUADS); //
//sciana frontowa
glNormal3f( 0.0f, 0.0f, 1.0f); // Normal Pointing Towards Viewer
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
//sciana lewa
glNormal3f(-1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); // Normal Pointing Left
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
//sciana gorna
glNormal3f( 0.0f, 1.0f, 0.0f); // Normal Pointing Up
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
//sciana prawa
glNormal3f( 1.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f); // Normal Pointing Right
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
//sciana dolna
glNormal3f( 0.0f,-1.0f, 0.0f); // Normal Pointing Down
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,boxsize[2]/2);
//sciana tylnia
glNormal3f( 0.0f, 0.0f,-1.0f); // Normal Pointing Away From Viewer
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(1.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,-boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 1.0f); glVertex3f(boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glTexCoord2f(0.0f, 0.0f); glVertex3f(-boxsize[0]/2,boxsize[1]/2,-boxsize[2]/2);
glEnd();
}
glPopMatrix();
//----------------- scy ------------------//
glEnable(GL_TEXTURE_2D); //
glLoadIdentity(); //
glBindTexture(GL_TEXTURE_2D, texture[1]); //
glTranslatef(0.0f,-3.4f,-10.0f); //
glRotatef(90.0f,1.0f,0.0f,0.0f); //
glRotatef(rots,0.0f,0.0f,1.0f); //
gluSphere(quadratic,20.0f,32,32); //
//------------------------------------------//
if (game)
{
glDisable(GL_TEXTURE_2D);
glLoadIdentity();
glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,-1.0f);
glColor3f(0.0f,0.0f,1.0f);
glRasterPos2f(-0.2f,0.0f);
glPrint("Game Over");
glLoadIdentity();
glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,-1.0f);
glRasterPos2f(-0.17f,-0.08f);
glPrint("Boxes %d",_gra.ilosc);
}
rots+=0.05f;
return true; // Done drawing the quad
}-------------- finito
big SORRY for spamming my code here but i don't know what is wrong.... if enyone if familiar to Tokamak and OpenGL enought to help me i would be more than grateful
Post: #10
nvm my prev. post.... i was sitting infront of my screen from 5 pm. to like now 4 am reading countless number of codes, forum posts and tutorials ... and i'm close to finish this exercise of mine the openGL code's working (need little corrects ) physics working (the Tokamak). it was hard due to low number of any tutorials wrote for Tokamak on OpenGL (not glut) 
thats iritating but somehow i menaged to figure out how it works ... thx to anyone who helped me, and those who wanted to, but haven't had enough luck to visit this thread ... i'll notice u when i'll finish the code and it will be "bug free" , then u will be able to take a glance at a poore work of mine (ofcourse most of u will have to buy a PC and instal WinDors...ows ) have a good night to me ... at last
i was sitting infront of my screen from 5 pm. to like now 4 am reading countless number of codes, forum posts and tutorials ... and i'm close to finish this exercise of mine the openGL code's working (need little corrects ) physics working (the Tokamak). it was hard due to low number of any tutorials wrote for Tokamak on OpenGL (not glut) thats iritating but somehow i menaged to figure out how it works ... thx to anyone who helped me, and those who wanted to, but haven't had enough luck to visit this thread ... i'll notice u when i'll finish the code and it will be "bug free" , then u will be able to take a glance at a poore work of mine (ofcourse most of u will have to buy a PC and instal WinDors...ows ) have a good night to me ... at last
Post: #11Sercher_PL Wrote:nvm my prev. post....This is completely off topic, but I'm only going to say this once: Please try to write like you are older than 12 years old. It'll SERIOUSLY help people understand you
Post: #12
glad you got up and running. Post links if possible to what you create for those of us with PCs - and links to screenshots for those of us without.
FYI - there is a tokamak specific forum at http://www.tokamakphysics.com/guideline.htm where you may find people more helpful with the physics questions. And an email list by sending to tokamak-forum-subscribe@tokamakphysics.com.
FYI - there is a tokamak specific forum at http://www.tokamakphysics.com/guideline.htm where you may find people more helpful with the physics questions. And an email list by sending to tokamak-forum-subscribe@tokamakphysics.com.
Quote:thx codemattic 4 the sites - that's what i was looking 4.... i choosed the tokamak ('couse it was first on the list :] )yeah - well - not the *greatest* way to choose between SDKs... but it looks like you are doing ok with it!
Post: #13codemattic Wrote:Post links if possible to what you create for those of us with PCs - and links to screenshots for those of us without.Sure. I'll do that immediately after the work is done
codemattic Wrote:...there is a tokamak specific forum...i know
codemattic Wrote:yeah - well - not the *greatest* way to choose between SDKs... but it looks like you are doing ok with it!I liked the name *Tokamak* too!!
And the last thing:
skyhawk Wrote:This is completely off topic, but I'm only going to say this once: Please try to write like you are older than 12 years old. It'll SERIOUSLY help people understand youThis is completly off topic, but I'm only going to say this once: I'll be writing whatever and in any way i want. If U dont like it, keep it to yourself and don't post here. This topic is over.
Post: #15Quote:This is completly off topic, but I'm only going to say this once: I'll be writing whatever and in any way i want. If U dont like it, keep it to yourself and don't post here. This topic is over.Actually, this forum doesn't belong to you. We're very picky about writing.
That said, Skyhawk could've worded it a bit better, but in essence, he's right. I realize that English isn't your first language, but you proved you can do it good.In essence, we're really, really bitchy here, but it's a nice forum and we like to keep it that way.
Back onto topic, glad you fixed it. We're waiting for those screenshots.
