all is in the title

without and with cellshading (cartoon rendering.. )

I voted "It's really nice i love it!", but I only voted for that because I like the look, not because I think it makes a game any better. Also, it is more fitting for some games than others.

Very cool. Is that guy holding a can of RAID?

I really like the look, but the gameplay really has to fit the style. For instance, XIII was a pretty cool game in the way it tried to imitate a comic book. I think it worked really nicely. (the AI was terrible however.) The Zelda WindWaker game was also really well done. At first I thought it just looked bad in pictures, but once you see how fluid and perfect the animation fits the graphics style you can't help but say wow. The story was also made to be a little more cartoony (not really in a bad way) to make the style fit.

So if you're going to do cell shading for a game to which it doesn't necessarily fit. You'll probably get laughed at.

Daniel_Lurie Wrote:Very cool. Is that guy holding a can of RAID?

Spray paint.

I think cel-shading is great from an art perspective. But, people call it too gimmicky. I will have to disagree with those people. I think they fit fine in the games that I've seen that feature cel-shading (Jet Grind series, Wind Waker, and XIII). Jet Grind was supposed to be wild, so the art went along fine. Wind Waker... it was just a good game. XIII was based on the comic book so it fit nicely.

As long as the graphics fits with the game's style, story, etc., go for it. Now to see what Danlab will be releasing soon...

I think it is great if done correctly.

jabber Wrote:I think it is great if done correctly.

exactly....

I believe cel shading should be done to mimic cartoons or anime... I've seen several cases where it was done, just to be done, and in that case, that was way not cool.
Jet Grind Radio is perhaps the best looking cel shaded one I've seen

skyhawk Wrote:Jet Grind Radio is perhaps the best looking cel shaded one I've seen

Are you mad??? I've seen nothing better than Viewtiful Joe.

kelvin Wrote:Are you mad??? I've seen nothing better than Viewtiful Joe.

Indeed, Viewtiful Joe has the best cel shading ever.

Zelda The Wind Waker as awesome cel shading!

what are some bad examples of cel shading?

In the right games it can be awsome(like in Viewtiful Joe and Zelda : Wind Waker).

But then again, everyone else has already said that

skyhawk Wrote:what are some bad examples of cel shading?

Well, it's more of a question about which games that featured cel-shading are bad. One that comes to mind is Cel Damage

It was pretty lackluster. The art worked with the game, but the gameplay wasn't much fun.

I found XIII to be alright, and, again, the art worked with the game, but I didn't find it to be amazingly fun. It's mediocre, but not extremely great for a game.

applekid Wrote:Well, it's more of a question about which games that featured cel-shading are bad. One that comes to mind is Cel Damage

It was pretty lackluster. The art worked with the game, but the gameplay wasn't much fun.

I found XIII to be alright, and, again, the art worked with the game, but I didn't find it to be amazingly fun. It's mediocre, but not extremely great for a game.

I liked that gameplay... the graphics were mediocre though...